tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post1860247997630109383..comments2024-03-04T06:12:38.695+13:00Comments on Photo-Sleuth: Sepia Saturday 287: Picturing the Shape of an Immigrant FamilyBrett Paynehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-71071165901596487862015-07-19T10:46:57.514+12:002015-07-19T10:46:57.514+12:00Wendy - I suspect not in those days.Wendy - I suspect not in those days.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-33082246473565985762015-07-18T07:02:22.413+12:002015-07-18T07:02:22.413+12:00I love little Agnes Annie Gifford's pose. Was...I love little Agnes Annie Gifford's pose. Was there any correction available for her eye trouble?Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17863357756727783017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-7679730714411957642015-07-17T15:20:26.310+12:002015-07-17T15:20:26.310+12:00Yes, well done Jo.Yes, well done Jo.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-57760209191140172402015-07-17T14:15:53.891+12:002015-07-17T14:15:53.891+12:00Bingo!Bingo!Jofeathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10290597697140624780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-88146649817714846192015-07-14T13:15:36.725+12:002015-07-14T13:15:36.725+12:00Thanks everybody, for your comments and guesses as...Thanks everybody, for your comments and guesses as to the identities of the children in the two photos. I'll add my interpretation shortly as a post-script.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-37915813167744461322015-07-14T13:11:01.264+12:002015-07-14T13:11:01.264+12:00Barbara - Well perhaps you should give it a try. ...Barbara - Well perhaps you should give it a try. It's quite a task to make, but I think can be very useful.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-30250601777024647592015-07-14T08:40:06.518+12:002015-07-14T08:40:06.518+12:00Oh my, I didn't look up the right persons, bec...Oh my, I didn't look up the right persons, because I was thrilled with your chart. I use Ancestry a lot, and unfortunately there are mixed trees with links and people posted publicly which differ. But when I finally figure out who was really married and born when and where...I would love to use a chart like this. I've put my ancestors on an Excel sheet before...mmm...Barbara Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08351113054045427775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-26051320698881043052015-07-13T09:01:29.796+12:002015-07-13T09:01:29.796+12:00Jo - Thanks, and I'll wait until a few more se...Jo - Thanks, and I'll wait until a few more sepians have had a go before posting my thoughts on the matter. I presume you didn't have too much difficulty following the logic of the chart.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-45294197597990568722015-07-13T09:00:08.003+12:002015-07-13T09:00:08.003+12:00Postcardy - Hope you enjoyed them.Postcardy - Hope you enjoyed them.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-19591584576094376642015-07-13T08:59:46.893+12:002015-07-13T08:59:46.893+12:00Gail - You'll have to paste a note into the be...Gail - You'll have to paste a note into the beginning of the album explaining it, I think.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-23204253133390244132015-07-13T08:59:09.582+12:002015-07-13T08:59:09.582+12:00Kristin - Yes, I think she has what used to be kno...Kristin - Yes, I think she has what used to be known as a wall-eye.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-65276671801677246452015-07-13T08:57:50.449+12:002015-07-13T08:57:50.449+12:00Marilyn - The trouble with Ancestry.com is it'...Marilyn - The trouble with Ancestry.com is it's very addictive. Once you start using it - at least if you're like me - you can't do without it. Try it on one of the "free access" weekends that they occasionally have.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-45911595945032201442015-07-13T08:56:44.200+12:002015-07-13T08:56:44.200+12:00Mike - Oh, I wish that were the case, and it would...Mike - Oh, I wish that were the case, and it would be if I had my own office/study, but sadly I just occupy the dining room table at present. All in good time.<br /><br />Thanks for the suggestion about a reversal of the X/Y scales. I contemplated a similar arrangement early on in the gestation of this diagram (it's been on the go for a long time), and I agree that it might be easier to follow the generational connections. However, it doesn't fit quite as well with the shape of a computer screen. I would like to show the actual connections between generations somehow, too, but that's quite tricky, and may end up just confusing the visual effect.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-83158705587004447532015-07-13T08:42:08.349+12:002015-07-13T08:42:08.349+12:00I imagine that the photosleuth's lair, just li...I imagine that the photosleuth's lair, just like a TV detective, has walls festooned with hundreds of photos, notes, and diagrams linked together with colored string! :-)<br /><br />If I understand the flow correctly, the wall-eyed girl is likely the daughter of James & Mary Worrall-Gifford. While the parents of the three elegantly dressed children are Mary and Alfred Gifford-Maiden. <br /><br />Your chart is a very clever and practical visualization of a typical extended family. I played with the arrangement of information and wonder if reversing the X and Y might make the generational connection easier to see. The decades would run on the X, left to right, while the family generations follow on the Y, oldest on top descending to youngest on bottom. That way James and Ann are at the top, their children are staggered below with the next third generation of each in between. It looks a bit like a Lego block staircase with different colors for the geography. Mike Brubakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13065245846262417519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-27439545413175232042015-07-13T05:15:34.220+12:002015-07-13T05:15:34.220+12:00Aren’t the geanealogy sites great. I’m only now ge...Aren’t the geanealogy sites great. I’m only now getting into one or two and I wonder where the time goes when I get stuck in. I’ll have to look into Ancestry.com.Little Nellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11862657943846727987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-9991889899208708662015-07-12T13:36:51.939+12:002015-07-12T13:36:51.939+12:00Putting the tree and 1901 Census information toget...Putting the tree and 1901 Census information together, I'd say the first photo is of Agnes, daughter, of William Gifford and wife Mary, and the other is of Amelia H, Alfred J and Harry, children of Alfred and Mary Maiden nee Gifford. Amazing sleuth work by yourself, yet again!Jofeathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10290597697140624780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-70817438683250639412015-07-12T11:02:45.721+12:002015-07-12T11:02:45.721+12:00I don't have time right now to do the chart an...I don't have time right now to do the chart and photos justice. I will say that the middle aged man and the white haired man both have the same wild eyes and that the little girl alone in the picture, looks like something is wrong with her eye on my left.Kristinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06413795611563683135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-5838784523645851572015-07-12T05:42:50.135+12:002015-07-12T05:42:50.135+12:00It's commendable there are folks like you who ...It's commendable there are folks like you who enjoy delving into the past by all means available to identity those in the old photographs. And because you publicize how you do it, you must certainly encourage others to follow suit which is equally commendable. Unfortunately for those in the old photographs, I'm with Postcardy. I enjoy looking at the old photos & buy them in antique shops once in a while. And I identify them - but in a manner somewhat different from yours. They're generally nameless, of course, so I simply give them names & place them in an album in appropriate imaginary families together. That way they don't look so lonely, & they'll never know the difference anyway. It might confuse future generations, however. I suppose I should explain . . .La Nightingailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04769079547153094005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-59697429068073582522015-07-12T05:06:40.903+12:002015-07-12T05:06:40.903+12:00I'll assume your identifications are correct. ...I'll assume your identifications are correct. This "reader" just likes to read and look at photos!Postcardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16399915833682943432noreply@blogger.com