tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post8538855995546721562..comments2024-03-04T06:12:38.695+13:00Comments on Photo-Sleuth: Sepia Saturday 282: Derbyshire Photographers: John Mellor HampsonBrett Paynehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-7515545308577958812015-06-11T20:00:19.553+12:002015-06-11T20:00:19.553+12:00T+L - Haha, that happens to me too.T+L - Haha, that happens to me too.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-76468694396078485872015-06-11T18:16:31.203+12:002015-06-11T18:16:31.203+12:00I love when some history is found about the photog...I love when some history is found about the photographer. A post I did years ago still gets hits almost every single week because it was about a photo studio. I had to laugh when I discovered an auction house was actually using my post as a link about the photographers.Tattered and Losthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00208918251232477186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-36928936814476389862015-06-11T09:55:33.934+12:002015-06-11T09:55:33.934+12:00Maria - Thanks for your comment, and I agree it do...Maria - Thanks for your comment, and I agree it does seem odd, but I believe this is more due to the photographer's inexperience than anything else. In my opinion there is a trend, I believe driven primarily by eBay sellers, to call all sorts of Victorian era portraits "post mortem." I'm not saying that they don't exist, but I believe that the vast majority of those portraits claimed to be PMs are not. I don't believe this is one either.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-61394112779032858472015-06-10T23:06:39.589+12:002015-06-10T23:06:39.589+12:00I wonder if this could be Postmortem photography. ...I wonder if this could be Postmortem photography. It seems odd to have all those covered chairs in the photos and the non expression face. The hands look nicely white and the feet are covered so it is hard to tell but you never know. Thank you for visiting my sepia shotsMaria's Spacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11060118062069758281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-40040181288878573412015-06-08T09:49:42.761+12:002015-06-08T09:49:42.761+12:00Kristin - Yes, that's possible, although it co...Kristin - Yes, that's possible, although it could be a bit of the velvet collar.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-44410581018967794962015-06-08T09:48:16.043+12:002015-06-08T09:48:16.043+12:00Rosie - Boy or girl, it's a very unhappy looki...Rosie - Boy or girl, it's a very unhappy looking occasion.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-19359201393937492652015-06-08T09:47:30.371+12:002015-06-08T09:47:30.371+12:00Lorraine - I haven't read it even once, but I ...Lorraine - I haven't read it even once, but I suppose I know the story through and through from inadvertently absorbing goodness knows how many TV adaptations.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-73748444609194930422015-06-08T09:46:38.969+12:002015-06-08T09:46:38.969+12:00Alex - It's the part of England that I know be...Alex - It's the part of England that I know best, naturally since my Dad's family are there, and I do enjoy it when I visit. So much to see that has a direct relevance to my own family history.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-43918162921674711282015-06-08T00:25:53.944+12:002015-06-08T00:25:53.944+12:00If it is a boy, that could explain why he is unhap...If it is a boy, that could explain why he is unhappy, sitting there for quite a long time, keeping still and wearing that apparel to boot!!!!Rosiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015301472659256675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-59296331527655889662015-06-07T21:59:42.832+12:002015-06-07T21:59:42.832+12:00When I hear 'Derbyshire' I think of 'P...When I hear 'Derbyshire' I think of 'Pride and Prejudice'. I must have reread it too many times.Boobookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01395043246338753023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-78507547882837300492015-06-07T14:09:42.207+12:002015-06-07T14:09:42.207+12:00Oh Brett - what a lot of work that database is...g...Oh Brett - what a lot of work that database is...good for you...I do like a database...so useful. Yesterday at the Lifeline booksale I purchased The Shell and BP Guide to Britain for exactly $1. The opening sentence on the chapter devoted to Derbyshire and Staffordshire says " Derbyshire and Staffordshire must be two of the least publicized, least known and least appreciated counties in England." Thank you for doing your bit to bring Derbyshire to light. Alex Dawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05083753053051713061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-71277946238965602742015-06-07T07:21:04.526+12:002015-06-07T07:21:04.526+12:00I think I see a bit of a bow over the girl's s...I think I see a bit of a bow over the girl's shoulder. I believe she has short bangs and her hair is pulled back with the ribbon tied in a bow. She doesn't look at all happy.Kristinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06413795611563683135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-12682552463546021592015-06-06T21:34:07.093+12:002015-06-06T21:34:07.093+12:00Alan - I should publish more of them, because I ha...Alan - I should publish more of them, because I have a lot to catch up with, and don't do much in the way of updates to my main Derbyshire Photographers web site these days. Glad to hear they're of interest, and I hope to see some of your postcards some day.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-8746506587263976752015-06-06T21:05:31.165+12:002015-06-06T21:05:31.165+12:00Your research into Derbyshire photographers is alw...Your research into Derbyshire photographers is always fascinating and I recently acquired a small collection of Derbyshire postcards, so this makes your investigations even more fascinating for me.Alan Burnetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01015127443616786425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-8126184172650027992015-06-06T18:37:57.159+12:002015-06-06T18:37:57.159+12:00Nice turn of phrase, Jo.Nice turn of phrase, Jo.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-58913296145432860442015-06-06T18:32:55.261+12:002015-06-06T18:32:55.261+12:00My vote is for a boy in a kilt too, and it looks l...My vote is for a boy in a kilt too, and it looks like he wasn't particularly happy to be dressed that way or to have to pose for the mysteriously 'moonlighting' Mr Hampson.Jofeathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10290597697140624780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-68365095468975899002015-06-06T15:33:51.238+12:002015-06-06T15:33:51.238+12:00Helen - Possibly a costume, although military-them...Helen - Possibly a costume, although military-themed and styled clothing for children was quite popular throughout Victorian times, and those knots are very similar to that seen on military tunics.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-32927045279173057022015-06-06T15:32:26.262+12:002015-06-06T15:32:26.262+12:00Wendy - Yes, quite possibly a kilt, although I lef...Wendy - Yes, quite possibly a kilt, although I left that bit deliberately vague.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-86880829921586168052015-06-06T15:32:01.531+12:002015-06-06T15:32:01.531+12:00Barbara - Yes, it has been a labour of love, altho...Barbara - Yes, it has been a labour of love, although I've let in languish of late ... too many other projects on the go at the same time.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-13151874127065267342015-06-06T06:21:57.006+12:002015-06-06T06:21:57.006+12:00Fascinating information and research. I think it&#...Fascinating information and research. I think it's a boy and agree that the pose is unattractive. I think he's wearing a costume for some kind of performance. Very odd. Helen Killeen Bauch McHarguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07042488205276127209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-35851635773909743982015-06-06T02:39:01.174+12:002015-06-06T02:39:01.174+12:00The hair reads BOY to me, despite the dress. Not a...The hair reads BOY to me, despite the dress. Not a kilt?? Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17863357756727783017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-26751804759786106472015-06-05T19:51:19.145+12:002015-06-05T19:51:19.145+12:00Hi Brett, I’ve just been poking around at Derbyshi...Hi Brett, I’ve just been poking around at Derbyshire Photographers & Photographic Studios it must have taken hours and hours to assemble so much information, fascinating stuff.<br />Regarding the Portrait of an unidentified child, taken c.1880-1885 the sitter looks as if she/he would rather be anywhere but sitting in that chair. The features look very masculine, cover up the clothing and look at the face – I think it's a boy.<br />Barbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05962552429792516213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-75358552201847499482015-06-05T16:57:31.484+12:002015-06-05T16:57:31.484+12:00Gail - Yes, a very odd photo, and he obviously was...Gail - Yes, a very odd photo, and he obviously wasn't very skilled. Good thing he stuck to being a millwright, I suppose.Brett Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07706734864792449845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4599702957095945938.post-86885497954489191072015-06-05T16:32:26.569+12:002015-06-05T16:32:26.569+12:00I would suppose Mr. Hampson's photography work...I would suppose Mr. Hampson's photography work was in addition to his basic job as a millwright - a 2nd job as it were - perhaps as a hobby, or more likely, to earn more money to make life a little easier? I would question his work a bit, however. The child in the photo does not seem to be very well posed with his/her gown all bunched up and he or she slouching badly. Perhaps the child was being uncooperative, but if I saw this photo as evidence of his work, I don't believe I'd have Mr. Hampson photograph my family. It is really hard to tell if the child is male or female, but all those buttons on the shoes make me think it's a girl - short hair nevertheless.La Nightingailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04769079547153094005noreply@blogger.com